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neoboho
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« on: April 21, 2008, 12:25:47 PM »

I watched this documentary last night on PBS - it scared the hell out of (overweight) me.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/UiCRwMMh9k8&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/UiCRwMMh9k8&rel=1</a>

Hamburger = fat disguised as meat.  I was really startled - I had no idea that maize had "taken over." 

Here's the web site: http://www.kingcorn.net/

The irony is that the film makers point out that the farmers don't make a profit from cornaculture - their profit comes from us taxpayers, in the form of subsidies.  And what this nonoculture crop does to the soil, ultimately, is worthy of further investigation.  At any rate, we all pay for poison food (obesity and diabetes II) in taxes.  The logistical momentum is so great that it may be unstoppable.  And to think, cows used to eat grass.
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2008, 12:55:34 PM »

For a couple of years now, since I first read documented evidence that high-fructose corn syrup actually leaves the consumer hungry rather than satisfied, I have assiduously read labels and don't buy anything that contains it.  I still buy some things with normal corn syrup in them, and that's mainly in the form of Red Vines, which I would have a lot of trouble giving up permanently.

But there's cornstarch in many products in my pantry, and it's very hard to escape corn, indeed.  And it occurred to me that so-called quality beef has been touted as being "corn fed."

Fortunately, living in genteel poverty as I do, I have very little meat of any kind in my diet.  And I seldom buy anything already prepared.  Who knew that it was actually helping me? 

Godzilla bless you, Bush Administration, for reducing my financial circumstances so greatly and inadvertently protecting my health!

I look forward to seeing the entire documentary.  It's just what I need:  something else to scare me and piss me off.
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2008, 03:56:09 PM »

But there's something that really puzzles me about this issue, Facilitatrix.  That is, the documentary makes clear that all restraints on producing this GMO corn-like substance, and the US is over-producing madly- even above and beyond the demand of ethanol production - and the price of corn is skyrocketing worldwide.  Mexico, the world's fourth largest producer of corn, experienced a 400% hike on the price of masa (corn flour) in early 2007.  So Caulderon freezes masa prices at 78 cents a kilo, but producers could comply voluntarily.  This year Mexican corn protested Caulderon's lifting of corn tarrifs, which has flooded Mexico with cheaper corn from Canada and the US.  US and Canadian growers get some $20K a year in subsidies, while Mexicans get around 700 bucks.  Everyone is pointing to ethanol as the culprit, but I'm beginning to wonder.  Overproduction is supposed to drive prices, right?  So what's going on.

In a related story, oil prices are skyrocketing yet there are no oil shortages.  Supply and Demand rules no longer apply.  The inflation is caused by market traders.  Is the same going on with Industrial corn?
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2008, 10:58:10 PM »

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... oil prices are skyrocketing yet there are no oil shortages.  Supply and Demand rules no longer apply.  The inflation is caused by market traders.  Is the same going on with Industrial corn?

What I understand from the situation is that corn growers are making way more money from selling their corn for ethanol than for food products.  So, many growers are holding onto stock until they can get higher prices for it.  The same thing is happening internationally with rice. where, What I've heard is that rice is being used for biofuels, as well.  As the price has increased and people have been hoarding due to fears about shortages and higher prices, growers are holding out for higher prices, driving prices up higher because there's less rice "available." 

And American corn can be cheap (if they want it to be) because of those subsidies from the government, even though there hasn't been a need for them for years.  The subsidies were supposed to be only for years when crops failed, but the lobbies for agribusiness kept them going.  (I'm not sure how big the subsidies are in Canada, but I've heard complaints about them on CBC's As It Happens over the last few months.) 

And in Texas, millions of acres that used to be for growing rice have been sold off for development, because as long as the person who builds the McMansion on the 9 acres (I think that's the minimum to make this work) declares that the acreage is for farming, they get a subsidy, but they don't have to grow anything.

So, yes, it's the same as with oil.  Even if you're producing enough to fulfill demands, you hold it back to drive the price up.  Wasn't there legislation recently that ethanol has to be a certain percentage of our gas at the pumps now?  It's all artificial.  Remember the toilet paper "shortage"?  We're all pawns.

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